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Pasquale D'Silva
Posted May 21 - Read on Facebook

We talked about framer a little bit on our new podcast:

6 Comments

Koen Bok

Some great discussions here.

Luis Ricardo La Torre

They are pretty funny.

Luis Ricardo La Torre

Apparently the Framer guys are making a IDE? Super excited!

Koen Bok

Hey Pasquale I was thinking more about this. And it's kind of funny that you all such draw such a strong (but arbitrary) line between what a designer and engineer are, but still conclude you all three are sort of hybrids! What a coincidence! Or, is the definition of designer vs. engineer just outdated?

Koen Bok

I'll answer myself: our generations' definition of designer vs. engineer is silly, mostly determined by dtp (or old arts) and holding on to it for too long will make us look old soon. The new definitions will be based on "making" and for that you'll need both. I got a feeling this is pretty clear to all 18 yr old upcoming designers. And just something we bikeshed over.

Pasquale D'Silva

Koen Bok I rarely describe myself as soley just a 'designer'. Coming from so many disciplines (animation, web, illustration, traditional design) means that they all weigh into being a hybrid.

I do see a pretty hard line in my brain between drawing a circle with my hand, vs drawing one in code. I can only handle so much, before I break down.

For instance: I'm really excited about the idea of a GUI for State Machines in Framer. Being able to solve the more general visual problems in a visual medium makes a ton of sense. Working out the more traditional logic which connects the states together makes sense to do with code to me.

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